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Elegy and Iambus. with an English Translation by. J. M. Edmonds. Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. London. William Heinemann Ltd. 1931. 1. | Elegy and Iambus. with an English Translation by. J. M. Edmonds. Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. London. William Heinemann Ltd. 1931. 1. | ||
- | ====== Euenus ====== | + | ====== Euenus: Poems ====== |
- | “1I chanced one day to meet a man who has paid more to the sophists than all the others put together, Callias son of Hipponicus; and I asked him —it seems he has two sons —the following question. ‘.. Into whose care do you intend to give them? Who has the expert knowledge of virtue [or excellence] of the kind I have mentioned, the human and political? .. Is there anyone possessed of this virtue or not?’ ‘Certainly, | + | “1I chanced one day to meet a man who has paid more to the sophists than all the others put together, Callias son of Hipponicus; and I asked him —it seems he has two sons —the following question. ‘.. Into whose care do you intend to give them? Who has the expert knowledge of virtue [or excellence] of the kind I have mentioned, the human and political? .. Is there anyone possessed of this virtue or not?’ ‘Certainly, |
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+ | Plato Defence of Socrates | ||
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- | “Hereupon Cebes exclaimed ‘Ah, Socrates! you did well to remind me. I have been repeatedly asked —only the other day by Euenus —about the poems you have composed by versifying the tales of Aesop and about your Hymn to Apollo; they all want to know how it is that you composed them as soon as you came here though you had never before done the like. Now if you would like me to have some answer to give Euenus when he repeats his question, as I know he will, tell me what reply to make.’ ‘Very well, Cebes,’ he replied: ‘tell him the truth, that I composed these poems with no desire to compete with him or his works —for I knew how difficult that would be —but because I wanted to test the meaning of certain dreams I had, and acquit my conscience of any obligation they might lay upon me to make this literary venture. . Thus it was that I first composed a poem to the God whose festival was being held; and then,2 believing that the poet, if he is to be worth the name, should compose myth or fable and not history —and I had no expert knowledge of fiction myself, —I took the fables I had at hand and knew, namely Aesop' | + | “Hereupon Cebes exclaimed ‘Ah, Socrates! you did well to remind me. I have been repeatedly asked —only the other day by Euenus —about the poems you have composed by versifying the tales of Aesop and about your Hymn to Apollo; they all want to know how it is that you composed them as soon as you came here though you had never before done the like. Now if you would like me to have some answer to give Euenus when he repeats his question, as I know he will, tell me what reply to make.’ ‘Very well, Cebes,’ he replied: ‘tell him the truth, that I composed these poems with no desire to compete with him or his works —for I knew how difficult that would be —but because I wanted to test the meaning of certain dreams I had, and acquit my conscience of any obligation they might lay upon me to make this literary venture. . Thus it was that I first composed a poem to the God whose festival was being held; and then,2 believing that the poet, if he is to be worth the name, should compose myth or fable and not history —and I had no expert knowledge of fiction myself, —I took the fables I had at hand and knew, namely Aesop' |
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+ | Plato Phaedo | ||
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- | “Phaedrus and Socrates: | + | “Phaedrus and Socrates: |
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+ | Plato Phaedrus: | ||
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+ | Harpocration Lexicon to the Attic Orators | ||
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- | “And not even she (Aspasia) gives you (Socrates) teaching enough, but you must needs lay Diotima under contribution in learning the art of love, and Connus in music, and Euenus in poetry, and Ischomachus in agriculture, | + | “And not even she (Aspasia) gives you (Socrates) teaching enough, but you must needs lay Diotima under contribution in learning the art of love, and Connus in music, and Euenus in poetry, and Ischomachus in agriculture, |
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+ | Maximus of Tyre Dissertations | ||
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- | “Philistus: | + | “Philistus: |
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+ | Suidas Lexicon | ||
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- | “Let us pass over another point, that grammar and music were once combined —though indeed Archytas, and Euenus too, considered grammar subordinate; | + | “Let us pass over another point, that grammar and music were once combined —though indeed Archytas, and Euenus too, considered grammar subordinate; |
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+ | Quintilian Elements of Oratory | ||
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- | “The animal known as the camel bends its thighs in the middle and thus reduces the length of its legs, being quite properly called κάμηλος , that is to say κάμμηρος or bend-thigh , as we are told by Euenus in his Erotica to Eunomus . | + | The animal known as the camel bends its thighs in the middle and thus reduces the length of its legs, being quite properly called κάμηλος , that is to say κάμμηρος or bend-thigh , as we are told by Euenus in his Erotica to Eunomus . |
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Artemidorus Interpretation of Dreams | Artemidorus Interpretation of Dreams | ||
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- | “Instead of Chrysippus and Zeno you read Aristeides and Euenus. Have you lost nothing thereby?” Arrian Dissertations of Epictetus | + | “Instead of Chrysippus and Zeno you read Aristeides and Euenus. Have you lost nothing thereby? |
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+ | Arrian Dissertations of Epictetus | ||
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- | “ Why mention the Fescennines of Annianus, or the Love-Jests of that ancient poet Laevius? or Euenus, who was called wise by Menander himself? or all the comedy-writers, | + | “ Why mention the Fescennines of Annianus, or the Love-Jests of that ancient poet Laevius? or Euenus, who was called wise by Menander himself? or all the comedy-writers, |
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+ | Ausonius Cento Nuptialis [on the naughtiness of his writings] | ||
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====== Elegiac Poems ====== | ====== Elegiac Poems ====== | ||
- | “3Ulpian making no reply, Leonides exclaimed ‘My long silence entitles me to speak, and, to quote Euenus of Paros: | + | 3Ulpian making no reply, Leonides exclaimed ‘My long silence entitles me to speak, and, to quote Euenus of Paros: |
- | Many a man will contradict on all and every matter, and care not whether his contradiction be just. For such the old answer is enough, Be that your opinion and this mine. But a good argument will quickly persuade men of sense, for these are easy pupils.4 | + | //Many a man will contradict on all and every matter, and care not whether his contradiction be just. For such the old answer is enough, Be that your opinion and this mine. But a good argument will quickly persuade men of sense, for these are easy pupils.4// |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.1 | + | Athenaeus Doctors at Dinner |
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- | ” Athenaeus Doctors at Dinner | + | |
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- | “Euenus5: — | + | Euenus5: — |
- | The best measure of Bacchus is neither much nor very little, for he is the cause either of inspiration or of pain. He rejoiceth when he maketh four with three Nymphs;6 then too is he most apt for the bedchamber. But if he blow too strong, then doth he turn aside from our loves and plungeth us in a sleep that is neighbour unto death. | + | //The best measure of Bacchus is neither much nor very little, for he is the cause either of inspiration or of pain. He rejoiceth when he maketh four with three Nymphs;6 then too is he most apt for the bedchamber. But if he blow too strong, then doth he turn aside from our loves and plungeth us in a sleep that is neighbour unto death.// |
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- | ” Palatine Anthology | + | Palatine Anthology |
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- | “[Eu]enus: — | + | [Eu]enus: — |
- | Methinks it is by no means the least part of wisdom to read aright the nature of every man. | + | //Methinks it is by no means the least part of wisdom to read aright the nature of every man.// |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.3 | + | Stobaeus Anthology [on seeming and being] |
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- | ” Stobaeus Anthology [on seeming and being] | + | |
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- | “Euenus: — | + | Euenus: — |
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- | Daring with wisdom is of great advantage, but daring alone is harmful and bringeth badness. | + | |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.4 | + | //Daring with wisdom is of great advantage, but daring alone is harmful and bringeth badness.// |
- | ” Stobaeus Anthology [on courage] | + | Stobaeus Anthology [on courage] |
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- | “Euenus: — | + | Euenus: — |
- | Often the anger of men unveils a hidden mind much worse than madness. | + | //Often the anger of men unveils a hidden mind much worse than madness.// |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.5 | + | Stobaeus Anthology [on anger] |
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- | ” Stobaeus Anthology [on anger] | + | |
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- | “Neocles never saw Themistocles' | + | Neocles never saw Themistocles' |
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- | Son to father is ever either a fear or a pain. | + | |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.6 | + | //Son to father is ever either a fear or a pain.// |
But for all that, fathers do not cease to rear children, and those least of all, who least require them.7 | But for all that, fathers do not cease to rear children, and those least of all, who least require them.7 | ||
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Plutarch Love of Offspring | Plutarch Love of Offspring | ||
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- | “Of Injustice or Unrighteousness there are three kinds, impiety, covetousness, | + | Of Injustice or Unrighteousness there are three kinds, impiety, covetousness, |
- | ... [Hubris], which doeth wrong albeit she profit nothing. | + | //... [Hubris], which doeth wrong albeit she profit nothing.// |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.7 | + | Aristotle Virtues and Vices |
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- | ” Aristotle Virtues and Vices | + | |
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- | “For what is forced is called necessary, and therefore is painful, as Euenus says: | + | For what is forced is called necessary, and therefore is painful, as Euenus says: |
- | All that is forced giveth pain.8 | + | //All that is forced giveth pain.8// |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.8 | + | Aristotle Metaphysics |
- | ” Aristotle Metaphysics | ||
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====== Epic Poems ====== | ====== Epic Poems ====== | ||
- | “It is just this that makes habit so troublesome, | + | It is just this that makes habit so troublesome, |
- | I say that practice is long, friend, aye, and in the end is nature.9 | + | //I say that practice is long, friend, aye, and in the end is nature.9// |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.9 | + | Aristotle Nicomachean Ethics |
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- | ” Aristotle Nicomachean Ethics | + | |
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====== Iambic Poems ====== | ====== Iambic Poems ====== | ||
- | “Simonides makes time the wisest of things; .. Euenus combines the two in this: | + | Simonides makes time the wisest of things; .. Euenus combines the two in this: |
- | Time is the wisest and the foolishest of things.10 | + | //Time is the wisest and the foolishest of things.10// |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-0251.10 | + | Simplicius on Aristotle |
- | ” Simplicius on Aristotle | + | ---- |
- | ---- | + | “Why then, it may be asked, are not these things reckoned as part of a statement? My answer is that they partake of it merely as salt partakes of a dish of meat, or water of a cake of bread. Euenus indeed declared that fire is the finest of sauces; yet we do not call water a part of any particular cake or loaf, or fire or salt part of any particular dish we may order.” |
- | “Why then, it may be asked, are not these things reckoned as part of a statement? My answer is that they partake of it merely as salt partakes of a dish of meat, or water of a cake of bread. Euenus indeed declared that fire is the finest of sauces; yet we do not call water a part of any particular cake or loaf, or fire or salt part of any particular dish we may order.” | + | Plutarch Questions on Plato [on conjunctions, |
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