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Elegy and Iambus. with an English Translation by. J. M. Edmonds. Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. London. William Heinemann Ltd. 1931. 1. | Elegy and Iambus. with an English Translation by. J. M. Edmonds. Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. London. William Heinemann Ltd. 1931. 1. | ||
- | ====== Phocylides Poems ====== | + | ====== Phocylides: Poems ====== |
- | “Phocylides: | + | “Phocylides: |
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+ | Suidas Lexicon | ||
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- | “Archilochus may be blamed for his subject-matter, | + | “Archilochus may be blamed for his subject-matter, |
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+ | Plutarch On Listening | ||
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- | “The familiarity of the ancients with music is at once clear from Homer, who, because all his poetry was for music, gives many lines that are ‘headless’ (with a short syllable for a long at the beginning), | + | “The familiarity of the ancients with music is at once clear from Homer, who, because all his poetry was for music, gives many lines that are ‘headless’ (with a short syllable for a long at the beginning), |
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+ | Athenaeus Doctors at Dinner | ||
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- | “We are told by Chamaeleon in his book On Stesichorus that not only the poems of Homer but of Hesiod and Archilochus, | + | “We are told by Chamaeleon in his book On Stesichorus that not only the poems of Homer but of Hesiod and Archilochus, |
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+ | Athenaeus Doctors at Dinner | ||
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- | “I have seen Pompey here. He talked much of politics —of course, to judge by what he said (we must always say that of him ), with self-depreciation; | + | “I have seen Pompey here. He talked much of politics —of course, to judge by what he said (we must always say that of him ), with self-depreciation; |
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+ | Cicero Letters to Atticus | ||
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- | “Perhaps some of the work of the other poets might be called ‘popular, | + | “Perhaps some of the work of the other poets might be called ‘popular, |
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+ | Dio Chrysostom Orations | ||
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- | “In proof of this we might adduce the poetry of Hesiod, Theognis, and Phocylides, whom they declare to have been the best counsellors in human life ever known, and yet choose to concern themselves rather with one another' | + | “In proof of this we might adduce the poetry of Hesiod, Theognis, and Phocylides, whom they declare to have been the best counsellors in human life ever known, and yet choose to concern themselves rather with one another' |
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+ | Isocrates To Nicocles | ||
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- | “Another of the Sporades is the island o Leros . . .3 | ||
- | Thus also spake Phocylides —The Lerians are bad men, not one bad and another not, but all save Procles, and Procles is a Lerian.4 | + | Another of the Sporades is the island o Leros . . .3 |
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+ | //Thus also spake Phocylides —The Lerians are bad men, not one bad and another not, but all save Procles, and Procles is a Lerian.4// | ||
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It seems that the natives of this island were under the reproach of ill-nature. | It seems that the natives of this island were under the reproach of ill-nature. | ||
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Strabo Geography | Strabo Geography | ||
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===== Epic Poems ===== | ===== Epic Poems ===== | ||
- | “5Aristophanes means by χρῆσται ‘creditors’ ... Phocylides in his poems uses χρήστης in the ordinary sense, thus: | ||
- | <:Thus also spake Phocylides —>: Be not the debtor of a bad man, or he will annoy thee with asking to be paid before his time. | + | 5Aristophanes means by χρῆσται ‘creditors’ ... Phocylides in his poems uses χρήστης in the ordinary sense, thus: |
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+ | <:Thus also spake Phocylides —>: | ||
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- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.2 | ||
- | ” Scholiast on Aristophanes Clouds | + | Scholiast on Aristophanes Clouds |
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- | “Phocylides: | ||
- | Thus also spake Phocylides —The tribes of women come of these four, the bitch, the bee, the savage-looking6 sow, and the long-maned mare; the mare's daughter sprightly, quick, gadabout, and very comely, the savage-looking sow's neither bad, belike, nor good, the bitch' | + | Phocylides: — |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.3 | + | //Thus also spake Phocylides —The tribes of women come of these four, the bitch, the bee, the savage-looking6 sow, and the long-maned mare; the mare's daughter sprightly, quick, gadabout, and very comely, the savage-looking sow's neither bad, belike, nor good, the bitch' |
- | ” Stobaeus Anthology [censure of women, and also on marriage] | + | |
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+ | Stobaeus Anthology [censure of women, and also on marriage] | ||
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- | “Phocylides: | ||
- | Thus also spake Phocylides —Of what advantage is high birth to such as have no grace either in words or in counsel? | + | Phocylides: — |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.4 | + | //Thus also spake Phocylides —Of what advantage is high birth to such as have no grace either in words or in counsel?// |
- | ” Stobaeus Anthology [that high-born and worthy fathers do not always get children like themselves] | + | |
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+ | Stobaeus Anthology [that high-born and worthy fathers do not always get children like themselves] | ||
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- | “7In the same way, said I, you can take a brief example from the poetry of Phocylides, who is not one of those stringers-together of some long and continuous piece of versification like your friend who takes more than five thousand lines to recount a single battle, but writes pieces extending first and last to but two or three lines; indeed he prefixes8 his name to each sentiment he expresses, as believing it of serious import and great value —unlike Homer, who never names himself. You agree, do you not, that he had every right to prefix Phocylides to such a maxim or pronouncement as this: | ||
- | Thus also spake Phocylides —A little state living orderly in a high place is stronger than a blockheaded Nineveh.9 | + | 7In the same way, said I, you can take a brief example from the poetry of Phocylides, who is not one of those stringers-together of some long and continuous piece of versification like your friend who takes more than five thousand lines to recount a single battle, but writes pieces extending first and last to but two or three lines; indeed he prefixes8 his name to each sentiment he expresses, as believing it of serious import and great value —unlike Homer, who never names himself. You agree, do you not, that he had every right to prefix Phocylides to such a maxim or pronouncement as this: |
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+ | Thus also spake Phocylides —//A little state living orderly in a high place is stronger than a blockheaded Nineveh.9// | ||
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- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.5 | ||
- | ” Dio Chrysostom Orations | + | Dio Chrysostom Orations |
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- | “ Muttering and to mutter : —These words are not to be rejected, but are Ionic. They are used, I know, by a very ancient writer, Phocylides of Miletus: | ||
- | Thus also spake Phocylides —Comrade should consider with comrade what their fellow-townsmen | + | Muttering and to mutter |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.6 | + | //Thus also spake Phocylides —Comrade should consider with comrade what their fellow-townsmen mutter in their ears.// |
- | ” Phrynichus Introduction to Learning | + | |
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+ | Phrynichus Introduction to Learning | ||
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- | “Phocylides: | ||
- | If thou desirest riches, see that thou hast a fertile farm; for a farm, they say, is a horn of Amalthea. | + | Phocylides: — |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.7 | + | //If thou desirest riches, see that thou hast a fertile farm; for a farm, they say, is a horn of Amalthea.// |
- | ” Stobaeus Anthology [that husbandry is a good thing] | + | |
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+ | Stobaeus Anthology [that husbandry is a good thing] | ||
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- | “10From Phocylides: — | ||
- | Take thy counsel at night; at night a man's wits are sharper; quiet is good for one that seeketh virtue.11 | + | 10From Phocylides: — |
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+ | //Take thy counsel at night; at night a man's wits are sharper; quiet is good for one that seeketh virtue.11// | ||
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- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.8 | ||
- | ” Orion of Thebes Anthology | + | Orion of Thebes Anthology |
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- | “Phocylides: | ||
- | Many that are of little wit seem to be wise if their walk be orderly. | + | Phocylides: — |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.9 | + | //Many that are of little wit seem to be wise if their walk be orderly.// |
- | ” Stobaeus Anthology [on being and seeming-to-be, | + | |
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+ | Stobaeus Anthology [on being and seeming-to-be, | ||
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- | “12The life of a philosopher is better than that of a man of affairs, but to the man who lacks the necessaries of existence it is not preferable. | ||
- | Seek a living, and when thou hast a living, virtue.‘virtue’ included other excellence than moral | + | 12The life of a philosopher is better than that of a man of affairs, but to the man who lacks the necessaries of existence it is not preferable. |
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+ | //Seek a living, and when thou hast a living, virtue.‘virtue’ included other excellence than moral// | ||
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- | ” Aristotle Commonplaces “... for as Phocylides says:” Scholiast on the passage | + | Aristotle Commonplaces “... for as Phocylides says:” Scholiast on the passage |
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- | “And Phocylides says: — | ||
- | When the cups go round at a drinking-bout we should quaff our wine quietly amid pleasant talk. | + | And Phocylides says: — |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.11 | + | //When the cups go round at a drinking-bout we should quaff our wine quietly amid pleasant talk.// |
- | ” Athenaeus Doctors at Dinner | + | |
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+ | Athenaeus Doctors at Dinner | ||
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- | “13It is these which are securest in a state; neither are they themselves covetous of other men's goods like the poor, nor are others covetous of theirs as poor men's are of rich men's; and they run no risks, because they are neither the objects nor the authors of conspiracy. And this is why we may approve the wish of Phocylides: | ||
- | Much advantage | + | 13It is these which are securest |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.12 | + | //Much advantage is theirs who are midmost, and midmost in a city would I be.// |
- | ” Aristotle Politics [on the middle-class] | + | |
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+ | Aristotle Politics [on the middle-class] | ||
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- | “14The poet Phocylides appears to me to give excellent advice when he says: | ||
- | We should learn noble deeds when we are yet children. | + | 14The poet Phocylides appears to me to give excellent advice when he says: |
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+ | //We should learn noble deeds when we are yet children.// | ||
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- | ” Plutarch Education | + | Plutarch Education |
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- | “15Let us then put up with the ridicule of the seeming-clever ... for not only must we, as Phocylides says: | + | 15Let us then put up with the ridicule of the seeming-clever ... for not only must we, as Phocylides says: |
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+ | //Make many mistakes16 in seeking to be good;// | ||
- | Make many mistakes16 in seeking to be good; | ||
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but also be much laughed at and despised . . . | but also be much laughed at and despised . . . | ||
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Plutarch On Listening | Plutarch On Listening | ||
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- | “17Moreover Phocylides, who calls the angels daimones or spirits, represents some of them as good and others as bad ...: | ||
- | But there must be spirits in the world, now these and now those, some < | + | 17Moreover Phocylides, who calls the angels daimones or spirits, represents |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.15 | + | //But there must be spirits in the world, now these and now those, some < |
- | ” Clement of Alexandria Miscellanies | + | |
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+ | Clement of Alexandria Miscellanies | ||
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- | “And that is why justice or righteousness so often appears to be the best of the virtues ... and we have the saying: | ||
- | Righteousness containeth | + | And that is why justice or righteousness so often appears to be the best of the virtues ... and we have the saying: |
- | CURFRAG.tlg-1604.16 | + | // |
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+ | Aristotle Nicomachean Ethics | ||
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+ | “This is by Theognis and runs thus (Theogn. 145-7), but it ranks as a proverb and is quoted as such by Theophrastus in Book I of his treatise On Characters , though in the first Book of his Ethics he quotes it as occurring in Phocylides, and it may well have been used by him; or else by both Phocylides and Theognis.” | ||
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+ | Scholiast on the passage: | ||
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- | ” Aristotle Nicomachean Ethics | ||
- | “This is by Theognis and runs thus (Theogn. 145-7), but it ranks as a proverb and is quoted as such by Theophrastus in Book I of his treatise On Characters , though in the first Book of his Ethics he quotes it as occurring in Phocylides, and it may well have been used by him; or else by both Phocylides and Theognis.” Scholiast on the passage: | ||
1 Jerome gives 534, Euseb. Arm. version 540 | 1 Jerome gives 534, Euseb. Arm. version 540 |
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